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		<title>Interview: Mark Jackson Organic Search SES 2008: San Jose</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Jackson who is President and CEO of VIZION Interactive took the time to do an interview with me about Duplicate Site Content and Multiple Site Issues which is also the panel he will be speaking on at SES 2008. You can also checkout other interviews at Marketing.fm at the SES 2008: San Jose area.<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.marketing.fm">Eric Friedman</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.vizioninteractive.com/'><img src="http://www.marketing.fm/wp-content/2008/08/vizion_logo.jpg" alt="" title="vizion_logo" width="160" height="63" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-971" /></a><a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/mjackson.html">Mark Jackson</a> who is President and CEO of <a href="http://www.vizioninteractive.com/">VIZION Interactive</a> took the time to do an interview with me about Duplicate Site Content and Multiple Site Issues which is also the panel he will be speaking on at <a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/agenda3.html#duplicate">SES 2008</a>.  You can also checkout other interviews at <a href="http://www.marketing.fm">Marketing.fm</a> at the <a href="http://www.marketing.fm/category/conferences/ses-2008-san-jose/">SES 2008: San Jose</a> area.</p>
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<strong>Many companies/marketers are unaware of duplicate content/multiple site penalties. What do you tell someone who has just spent thousands of dollars developing a site that&#8217;s actually going to harm their SEO?</strong></p>
<p>There are many ways to deal with the issue. Generally speaking, if there are multiple copies of a site or there are multiple copies of content you&#8217;ll want to suggest to them that while we can leave the content open to visitors, the search engines need to &#8220;see&#8221; only one copy of the content. So, you will want to use a robots.txt file or other means of disallowing the search engines from indexing more than one copy of the content.</p>
<p> That said, in very general terms, if I see someone about to launch a website that I know will hurt their SEO, I tell them NOT to launch until they’ve addressed any issues that could be less than “optimal” for SEO (redirects are not set up properly, URLs are horrible, pages are “invisible” to the search engines, or any other issues).</p>
<p> <strong>If you already have multiple sites with similar content, what steps (other than taking one down or developing completely new content for one of them) can you take to minimize the negative effects on your SEO?</strong></p>
<p>Again, the &#8220;easiest thing&#8221; can be to make sure that the search engines can only index one copy of the content. There can be very legitimate reasons why you would want to keep multiple or similar copies available to human visitors, including having different versions for PPC landing pages. The best thing you can do, though, to minimize the negative effects on search engine optimization is to be aware of all of the duplicate content and to make sure that the search engine crawlers can only get to one copy. If it’s absolutely necessary to market each website separately, and there are many (thousands of?) pages of content, I would recommend that they – at a minimum – edit the first paragraph of content to be unique and ensure that Titles and Descriptions are unique.</p>
<p><strong>As blogs become increasingly popular, many companies are developing unique domains for their company blog. If this content is syndicated through their homepage or elsewhere, will that have negative affects on their homepage&#8217;s SEO?</strong></p>
<p>Generally speaking, most companies will tend have a &#8220;shorter version&#8221; of the content on their company home pages. It is typical for a home page to include the title (which is a link) and a brief description of the article or blog post. Having an RSS feed or other type of feed on a web page generally is not considered duplicate unless that content is the only content on the page. Most home pages generally have a lot more content on the page than one syndicated feed. In fact, we have seen that these small snippets of content on the home page, being regularly updated, can have a positive effect on SEO as search engines do like to see fresh content, rather than a home page that never changes.</p>
<p><strong>Do micro-sites with completely original content, but which are affiliated/associated with the parent company/homepage, have a negative affect on SEO?</strong></p>
<p>It really depends on the content of the micro-site on whether or not it has a negative effect on search engine optimization. If the micro-site has  original content then it is a good thing. However, lately, we are recommending that a blog or micro-site be put directly on the main domain name rather than developing a completely separate site with a completely new domain name.</p>
<p><strong>Does duplicating homepage content on social networks/profiles hurt your SEO? (E.G. if a company creates a myspace page and copies much of the content from their homepage onto their myspace page, will that be considered duplicate content)</strong></p>
<p>Generally speaking, if you were to take content and text from your current website and put it on social network or a profile it typically is not considered to be duplicate. There is usually enough other text and enough other content on the social networking profile where duplicate content is not usually an issue.</p>
<p><strong>How does a search engine identify that two sites are related/tied to one another? What if someone copies my webpage content to their page, but I have no association with them, do I get penalized?</strong></p>
<p>In most cases, the page that gets crawled first will be the originator of the content. Any other pages that the search engines find (like someone who copied your web page and put it on their site) will be considered duplicates of the original. The same concept applies when you take copy from one of your web pages and put it on another; the first page crawled is the original; all others are duplicates. So, this illustrates the importance of trying to ensure that your original content, that exists on your website is crawled/indexed first.</p>
<p>For more information about Mark checkout his company website <a href="http://www.vizioninteractive.com/">http://www.vizioninteractive.com/</a> or see him at SES 2008: San Jose</p>
<p><a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/agenda3.html#duplicate">Duplicate Content &#038; Multiple Site Issues</a></p>
<blockquote><p>More and more site owners are concerned that they might get penalized accidentally or overtly because of duplicate content. If you run mirror sites, will search engines ban you? If you have listings that are similar in nature, is that an issue? What happens if you syndicate content through RSS and feeds? Will other sites be considered the &#8220;real&#8221; site and rob you of a rightful place in the search results? This session looks at the issues and explores solutions.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Interview: Bill Hunt &#8211; SES 2008: San Jose</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Hunt is the CEO of Global Strategies, and will be speaking at the keynote round table discussion Why does search get credit for everything? He is speaking on the same panel as Randy Peterson, recently interviewed here. You are participating in a keynote roundtable this year at the SES 2008 show in San Jose [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.marketing.fm">Eric Friedman</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.marketing.fm/wp-content/2008/07/billhunt_small.jpg" alt="" title="billhunt_small" width="155" height="170" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-965" />  Bill Hunt is the CEO of <a href="http://www.globalstrategies.com/index.html">Global Strategies</a>, and will be speaking at the keynote round table discussion <strong><a href="http://searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/agenda3.html#keynote">Why does search get credit for everything?</a></strong>  He is speaking on the same panel as <a href="http://www.marketing.fm/2008/07/28/interview-randy-peterson-ses-2008-san-jose-qa/">Randy Peterson</a>, recently interviewed here.</p>
<p><strong>You are participating  in a keynote roundtable this year at the  <a href="http://searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/?utm_source=marketingfm&#038;utm_medium=bannerad&#038;utm_campaign=sessanjose">SES 2008 show in San Jose</a>  about attributing sales to Search &#8211; How much credit  does an SEM  program deserve? </strong></p>
<p>It obviously deserves its fair  share but this is the problem we are trying to solve&#8230; That search should  not be an island and should be collaborative with other marketing  activities. Historically, Search Marketers have tried to compete with  other budgets rather than trying to be complimentary.  We are trying  to get marketers to understand they should work together and how to play  nice with other marketers.</p>
<p><strong>How do you determine  the success of a Search campaign? What are  some benchmarks for  success?</strong></p>
<p>It really varies.  There are two key things we look for in metrics:</p>
<p>Most people with their search campaigns are only interested in Response Oriented — this is where the goal was to provoke people to do something.  They want to know how many clicks and people buy.  We are doing these but starting to do more around  Awareness Oriented metrics – how many people became aware of us or our products during this phrase and what was their depth of their engagement with us.</p>
<p>Too many people exclude generic words from their campaign because the ROI is not positive but if they measures the awareness lift similar to GRP’s it opens up a different perspective.  The current brand recall studies show this has tremendous value to the business.   Additionally, we look at the “why only x” in terms of clicks and conversions.  I have never been happy with a 5% click rate which means that 95% did not connect.  If our client is the market leader they should be getting more but too many marketers do not take the time to understand why they are not getting their fair share of that opportunity.</p>
<p><strong>What are some examples  (generic or specific) of companies doing  search right or wrong?</strong><br />
There are many large and small companies doing search  wrong.  Just about any search you do you will see mistakes with both  paid and natural search.  I see a lot of big companies that still  have not effectively integrated search into their marketing organization.    Those doing it well are many of the brands on the panels at  this next SES.  I am impressed with what Intuit has done as well as  Intel – both are examples of well integrated search programs.</p>
<p><strong>What is the latest  &#8220;flash in the pan&#8221; meme in search marketing?</strong></p>
<p>Social Media optimization – I think there are a lot of hacks  out there that are jumping on this bandwagon since it is hot now.  We  are seeing a lot of chatter about optimizing social media content.   While a lot of this is good information it is done after the fact  rather than anything strategic that creates continuity.  There are  some companies who have embraced it and have tied it into a larger traffic  and messaging strategy.</p>
<p><strong>What are next  generation search marketers thinking about?</strong><br />
They  are thinking about content optimization across multiple formats and how to  maximize all  intersections with searchers.   They will  also be looking for was to integrate search into the entire content  creation workflow.</p>
<p><strong>What is one area you  would like to see people spend more time on  when looking at SEM  analytics? </strong></p>
<p>Monitoring paid and organic search  integration.</p>
<p><strong>Please share some of your professional background and why enjoy  being CEO/President of Global Strategies? </strong></p>
<p>I am one of the pioneers of Search Marketing.  I got  started by sending requests for inclusion into Yahoo! Directly to Jerry Yang  when they were just starting out.  I helped Outrider grow into the  largest search agency that was acquired by WPP in 2000.  After taking a  break from search and working on a few internal consulting projects I formed  GSI to work with companies to integrate search into the workflow for scale.   We have grown to be a leader in enterprise and global search  marketing.    Why I enjoy being the CEO?  I get to  oversee a great team of dedicated Search consultants and work with some of  the biggest brands in the world.   I get to travel the world to  meet with clients and teams.  Last year I logged over 300,000 miles and  visted 20+ countries.  The travel around the  world gives me the opportunity to experience many different forms of search  marketing techniques and opportunities.</p>
<p>For more information about Bill Hunt or his company checkout <a href="http://www.globalstrategies.com/index.html">Global Strategies</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anders Hjorth will be speaking on the first day of the Search Engine Strategies conference in San Jose in the following track:Search Around the World &#8211; Part 2: The UK &#038; Europe. Anders took the time to delve into some large International SEM questions and give clear advice to those who are participating in SEM [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://www.marketing.fm">Eric Friedman</a>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.relevanttraffic.com/'><img src="http://www.marketing.fm/wp-content/2008/07/relavanttraffic.gif" alt="" title="relavanttraffic" width="106" height="45" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-969" /></a><a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/ahjorth.html">Anders Hjorth</a> will be speaking on the first day of the <a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/agenda.html#world1">Search Engine Strategies conference in San Jose</a> in the following track:<a href="http://searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/?utm_source=marketingfm&#038;utm_medium=bannerad&#038;utm_campaign=sessanjose">Search Around the World &#8211; Part 2: The UK &#038; Europe</a>.  Anders took the time to delve into some large International SEM questions and give clear advice to those who are participating in SEM internationally right now, or who are thinking about it in the future.  You can find more information about Anders at the show or using the links at the bottom of the interview to get in direct contact with his company or see other <a href="http://www.marketing.fm/category/conferences/ses-2008-san-jose/">SES 2008 Interviews</a> here.</p>
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<p><strong>What is your background and what are you doing for <a href="http://www.relevanttraffic.com/">Relevant Traffic</a>?</strong></p>
<p>I am part of what I would call the first generation of Europeans embracing cultural and language diversity. I was born in Denmark, travelled in my youth and studied in 4 different countries and in 4 different languages before beginning my career in France.</p>
<p>After having worked mainly in the French internet sector in various companies and functions, I became one of the founders of Relevant Traffic Europe, a Europe-wide Search Engine Marketing agency delivering technology solutions, search campaigns and consultancy in 11 languages and over 20 countries.</p>
<p>I today head a team of experts residing in various subsidiaries to accumulate and distribute know-how within client delivery and for tailor-made client solutions.</p>
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What are key issues to think about into the UK &#038; Europe SEM market?</strong><br />
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The key issues to think about for doing SEM in Europe are three-fold: user constraints, language preferences and cultural flavour.</p>
<p>User constraints are really about understanding the context the user will be in when doing a search. Mobile internet is more important in Europe due to a high equipment rate and although this is not as omnipresent as in advanced parts of Asia, this could be a good example of a user constraint. More relevant user constraints are those in relation with the buying experience: what are the most common means of payment or delivery of goods in the country &#8211; what is the currency used. Will there be problems with VAT or import taxes, what will be the connexion speed, will the keyboard lay-out work with the application. All of these elements of user constraints are quite essential as they could represent an completely blocking obstacle in the conversion funnel.</p>
<p>The second element to be dealing with can be equally blocking. It is of course the language factor. You will need to be addressing web users in their own language, that is, if you are not marketing entirely indispensable services (most people are of course not)&#8230; The language issue can be quite complex as it dictates the keywords and key phrases that you will be using in SEM. The language dimension not only important for the SEM efforts but more so on the destination web site. In some cases a language specific microsite explicitly stating that the remaining service will be in English language can be a solution. In most cases, however, if your web site is only in English, you might as well not market towards a specific region at all.</p>
<p>The third element is somewhat softer &#8211; it is the cultural dimension of your marketing campaign. Culture is often considered to be something difficult to grasp but in SEM the cultural dimension is very concrete. It furthermore ties into both the user constraints and language issues. As an example an English language Ad from a US campaign may not be efficient in the UK market because of both different word connotation and politeness. A message can be more or less direct and in this way be considered more or less aggressive by two different audiences in different cultural settings. Another dimension to the cultural context is the type of message used in other marketing channels both on and offline. The type of message your competitors are using will add to the cultural flavour. From our experience within Relevant Traffic, a higher cultural immersion into the local jargon and standards of communication will always give a higher return. The cultural dimension will allow you to tap into the long tail.</p>
<p>So to sum up, if you miss out on the user constraints you might as well not start marketing to a geographic area (sell in Euros to the UK where they will pay in Pound Sterling). If you have got the user constraints right you will get some initial marginal returns even if you haven&#8217;t fully managed the language dimension (you can get away with targeting the UK with a copy and paste US campaign). If you want to compete within high volume business areas, you need to also consider the cultural dimension. “When in Rome, do as the Romans”…</p>
<p><strong>What are the hot issues surrounding international SEM at the moment?</strong></p>
<p>The hottest issue around international SEM is an extremely boring one called organisation. According to the level of branding against conversion required in a Paid Search strategy, an entirely different set-up could be required. For highly competitive international SEM, it will be necessary to have feet on the ground in every major language/country segment and establish an efficient command line and an aggregate reporting. For a brand campaign with mainly visibility objectives a more centralized organisation and a stronger command line can be established with less feet on the ground. Major international organisations with multi-national presence are today struggling with a major headache issue of finding out how to organize international SEM internally as well as how to work with international agencies externally. For each organisation the setting could be different.</p>
<p><strong>How do you decide which markets to move into next with your global marketing plan?</strong></p>
<p>When building an international marketing plan, timing is often a problem so let&#8217;s forget that and just concentrate on how things should be: For each country/language segment, a comparison of adaptation costs with market potential would easily give a prioritized list of markets to target. For a US company, this equation will very often generate a prioritized list starting with something like this:</p>
<p>1) Canada/EN</p>
<p>2) United Kingdom</p>
<p>3) Australia NZ/EN</p>
<p>4) Mexico &#038; Central America/ES</p>
<p>After that it get&#8217;s harder and the following markets will involve Asian (Japan, China) and Western European markets (Germany, France, Spain, Italy, &#8230;)</p>
<p><strong>What are some international SEM resources on the web that you recommend?</strong></p>
<p>I will mainly recommend e-consultancy.com which is a great resource with in-depth reports. I have also had great use of the European Interactive Advertising Association&#8217;s market information: http://www.eiaa.net/</p>
<p><strong>What are some great non-US blogs to read for international search gurus?</strong></p>
<p>I spend very little time on non-US blogs so I won&#8217;t recommend any.</p>
<p><strong>What is the latest &#8220;flash in the pan&#8221; meme in search marketing?</strong></p>
<p>There have been so many Flash in the pan meme&#8217;s out there both in paid and natural.I like the recent &#8220;Google can now index Flash&#8221; one. My feeling is Google always could and never really will index Flash in the way they should… but at least this will get the SEO industry more ways of making it all sound very complex <img src='http://www.marketing.fm/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>What is your blog or a place that people can get in contact with you?</strong></p>
<p>Best place to hook up right now will be on <a href="http://searchenginestrategies.com/sanjose/agenda.html#world2">Search Engine Strategies in San José</a> where I speak on the 18th of August. Also happy to receive you in <a href="http://www.relevanttraffic.com/contact/index.php">Paris or in one of our other European offices</a>.</p>
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